This morning, between 4:30 and 6:00 a.m., it came to pass that I woke up and began to address my thoughts to God. I perceived His invitation to take the opportunity to go upstairs to one of our empty rooms, and spend some time “in retreat” with Him. I got up, dressed, took my scriptures and went upstairs, leaving my office and the rest of the house and all the “of this world” distractions they represent.
First I knelt by the bed in the front bedroom. Then I sat on the bed and began to record my thoughts to the Lord and His thoughts back to me, as I could most sincerely perceive them. What follows here is a record of the conversation I experienced. It is made in the weakness of my own language. I share it here, with whoever is interested, because I feel His invitation to do so. Please know that I have no assumption or intention of doing anything but to attempt to demonstrate that it is possible to frame the acquisition of wisdom and insight as a direct dialogue with the Lord Jesus Christ and with Heavenly Father. I know that the scriptures cannot be interpreted in only one way–have one “private” interpretation. I just long, with all my soul, to testify that He is this close and this humble–that He will converse with a very weak and imperfect human being. I know. I have lived it.
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Father in Heaven, I am being so tempted to feel negative about myself, this morning, because of my imperfect weight. It is so not perfect, not worthy, not admirable. It is so hard, but I am trying to be willing to choose not to give into these negative thoughts and get swallowed up in despair. Lord, please counsel me!
The words come to my memory from the scripture, “perplexed but not in despair.”
GO AND LOOK UP ANY SCRIPTURE I RECALL TO YOUR MIND, SO THAT I MAY MORE FULLY OPEN THEM TO YOU AND LIKEN (APPLY) THEM TO YOUR LIFE.
2 Corinthians 4:8-9 — We are troubled on every side, yet not distressed; we are perplexed but not in despair; persecuted, but not forsaken; cast down but not destroyed;
READ ON TO VERSE 10 TO UNDERSTAND HOW IT IS YOU CAN KEEP FROM BEING “DRUG OFF TO THE SECOND PLACE” AS NAN TAUGHT YOU THE METAPHOR SOME TIME AGO.
I see, Lord. To be troubled is the “first place.” It is the adversary’s first effort to get to me. And if I will let him, he will drag me off to the “second place.” He will draw me down from “troubled,” into despair.
EXACTLY.
2 Corinthians 4:10 — Always bearing about in the body the dying of the Lord Jesus, that the life also of Jesus might be made manifest in our body.
It is challenging to see through this archaic language, Lord. It sounds confusing.
LISTEN TO ME. I WILL TRANSLATE IT FOR YOU.
ALWAYS BEARING ABOUT IN THE BODY = ALWAYS KEEPING IN REMEMBRANCE.
THE DYING OF THE LORD JESUS = THE SACRIFICE AND
SUFFERING I WENT THROUGH FOR YOUR SAKE.
THAT THE LIFE ALSO OF JESUS = MY LIFE, MY SPIRIT
MIGHT BE MADE MANIFEST IN OUR BODY = MIGHT ALWAYS BE WITH YOU.
Lord, it sounds like You are recalling to my mind the words of the Sacrament prayer: “That they might always remember Him, that they might have His Spirit to be with them.”
THAT IS EXACTLY WHAT I’M REFERRING YOU TO.
And so the way to be troubled, but not let it cause me to slip into despair is to remember You at that moment, and in the remembering of you, I am indicating that I desire to have Your Spirit with me.
BY THINKING OF ME, AND EVEN MORE “IN THE MOMENT,” THINKING UNTO ME, YOU ARE MADE CONSCIOUS OF THE REALITY THAT ALREADY SURROUNDS YOU, BUT THAT THE LIAR WOULD HAVE YOU FORGET AND/OR IGNORE–THE REALITY THAT I AM ALWAYS WITH YOU THROUGH MY LIGHT WHICH RESIDES AT THE VERY CORE OF YOUR BEING–IN THE HOLY OF HOLIES OF THE TEMPLE YOU ARE.
But, Lord, I am so troubled and perplexed about so many things. I am so tempted to feel persecuted and abandoned. I get so hung up, so slowed down if not downright dammed up by these feelings.
COLLEEN, YOU MUST ACCEPT THAT WHILE YOU ARE TEMPORARILY UNDER THE VEILED, CHALLENGING CONDITIONS OF MORTALITY, YOU CANNOT AVOID FEELING TROUBLED, PERPLEXED, OR EVEN PERSECUTED AND CAST DOWN. WHY? BECAUSE THE TRUTH IS YOU ARE ALL THOSE THINGS IN MORTALITY.
I see. My having those feelings does not mean that I am doing anything wrong. Having them is part of being mortal, of being in a world where the Liar is so hard at work on me directly (troubled and perplexed), and on me through others stumbles and falls (persecuted and cast down). I don’t have to let the Liar try to get me to feel distressed because I feel troubled. I don’t have to go with him into despair because I feel perplexed, etc.
EXACTLY.
And the way I can avoid doing that is to look to You. To think of Thee–bear Thy dying (Thy sacrifice to save me from the Liar and his lies) about with me in my body (my mind), so that You can rescue me. I see, I need to turn to Thee in those moments of trouble, perplexity, persecution (victimized) and abandoned (cast off,) so that You can know my desire to have You apply your atoning, saving power to me, so that You can cover me in Thy mercy and Thy grace and rescue me from the enemy of my soul–from the Liar and the lies he tries to entice me with.
I see that as I look to Thee in those moments–even if they last for hours–that I feel troubled, perplexed, persecuted and cast off, You will rescue me from being drug down into the gulf of misery that the Liar continually tries to prepare for me.
I am being reminded of a verse of scripture by those words “the gulf of misery.”
GO LOOK IT UP. IT’S THE NEXT OPENING INTO MY COUNSEL TO YOU.
Helaman 3:29 — Yea, ye see that whosoever will may lay hold upon the word of God, which is quick and powerful, which shall divide asunder all the cunning and the snares and the wiles of the devil, and lead the man of Christ in a strait and narrow course across that everlasting gulf of misery which is prepared to engulf the wicked—
DO YOU SEE, COLLEEN, THAT THIS IS EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE EXPERIENCING IN THIS HOUR, BY BELIEVING AND RECEIVING AND EXPERIMENTING UPON JOSEPH’S TESTIMONY THAT IT IS POSSIBLE FOR A PERSON TO CONVERSE WITH ME AS ONE MAN WITH ANOTHER? YOU ARE LAYING HOLD ON THE WORD OF GOD, RIGHT HERE, RIGHT NOW, IN THE MOMENT OF YOUR NEED FOR IT. THIS IS THE WORD THAT IS “QUICK AND POWERFUL” TO STOP THE EFFORTS OF THE LIAR TO USE HIS LIES (SNARES AND WILES) AGAINST YOU. WHEN YOU TURN TO ME, ADDRESS YOUR TEMPTATIONS TO ME–THOSE MOMENTS WHEN YOU FEEL TROUBLED, ETC., . . . INSTEAD OF TRYING TO FEND THEM OFF ON YOUR OWN—THEN YOU DEMONSTRATE THAT YOU DESIRE TO BE A WOMAN OF MINE, OF CHRIST–AND I AM ABLE TO GIVE YOU THE COUNSEL AND COMFORTING WORDS YOU NEED TO KEEP YOU SAFE FROM BEING LED INTO “THE GULF OF MISERY,” (DISTRESS, DESPAIR, ETC.)
Lord, I cannot believe how many years You have labored with me, waited upon me, exercised such patience and mercy toward me, trying to get me to see that I do not have to do anything of myself, by myself—that I do not have to fend off these feelings on my own. Yet, I keep doing so. Why? Why?
IT IS PRIDE, COLLEEN. REMEMBER, IT IS THE UNIVERSAL SIN. THAT MEANS THAT YOU HAVE IT–OR AT LEAST THE TENDENCY TOWARD IT–EVERY MOMENT THAT YOU ARE SUBJECT TO THE LIAR’S EFFORTS TO ENTICE YOU AWAY FROM ONENESS WITH ME.
And I see, there is nothing I can do with my tendency to pride. I see it is yet another reality of mortal life, just like being troubled, perplexed, etc.
IT IS TRUE. IT IS.
And it does no good to be ashamed or angry at myself that I have that tendency, or try to pretend or deny to myself or others that I don’t have it.
NO, IT DOESN’T.
All that does any good is to do the same thing with it–with pride–as with the other things. Turn to Thee and confess it to Thee and let Thee deliver me from it.
EXACTLY.
GOOD LISTENING, COLLEEN!
I love Thee, dear Jesus.
I LOVE YOU, TOO, COLLEEN. BE OF GOOD CHEER. STAY CLOSE TO ME THIS DAY AS YOU GO THROUGH ITS CHALLENGES AND ITS ADVENTURES. I WILL DIRECT YOU FOR GOOD. REMEMBER WHERE TO TURN IN THOSE MOMENTS OF PRIDE, OF DISTRESS, OF PERSECUTION AND ABANDONMENT BY OTHERS. I WILL NEVER LEAVE YOU.
I am remembering a scripture.
I AM REMINDING YOU OF ONE. “I AM WITH YOU ALWAYS, EVEN UNTO THE END OF THE WORLD.”
It’s in Matthew 28:20. You were speaking to the apostles.
I WAS SPEAKING TO ALL WHO WOULD BELIEVE AND RECEIVE ME (MY SPIRIT, MY WORDS) IN THEIR MINDS AND HEARTS.
Thank You, Lord.
Thank You, Heavenly Father, for sending me Thy Beloved Son to counsel me in all my doings.
Lord, I am feeling such a desire to share this outpouring of Thy living reality with others. But I don’t know how to do it. I keep trying to think of how to disguise Thy words and voice in some literary form, but months have turned into years, and nothing is given to me–except more conversations.
GO AHEAD AND PUBLISH OUR CONVERSATIONS, COLLEEN. REMEMBER WHAT PHIL KEEPS TELLING YOU–THAT NOTHING HELPED HIM MORE TO EXPERIMENT UPON THIS EXPERIENCE FOR HIMSELF, THAN TO HAVE YOU SHARE SOME OF OUR CONVERSATIONS WITH HIM, UNDISGUISED.
Lord, I place my life in Thy hands, and offer these things with no desire except to bear testimony to all the world that we are all–each and every human soul–able to counsel with Thee–in other words with the Spirit of Truth, of Peace, of Hope, of Mercy, of Wisdom–right within our own, individual hearts and minds.
I desire nothing but to testify to all who will hear, that addiction is the devil’s way of keeping us from turning to Thee and crying out to Thee and finding out that You are there, and that You will hear and answer (literally) our words to Thee.
In the Name of Jesus Christ, I share this testimony, this day. Amen.
AND AMEN.